AWP jackpot years
#1
I started playing fruit machines regularly when they were £4(t) token jackpots (yes I am that old)
The jackpot then increased to £4.80(t), £6(t), £8(t), £10, £15, £25, £35, £70 and now it is £100 

Does anyone know the years that the AWP machines were at what jackpot?  I 
I think AWPs went from £4 to £4.80 around 1988 and from £70 to £100 around 2013, but the rest is a bit hazy

Thanks in advance
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#2
2009 was £35 up to £70, hope your keeping well mate! £25 and £35 were def during my days in kent i know that! Not sure what year they changed though!
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#3
(07-17-2018, 06:01 AM)Glendale Wrote: 2009 was £35 up to £70, hope your keeping well mate! £25 and £35 were def during my days in kent i know that! Not sure what year they changed though!

Doing well thanks. Hope you are too. I'm trying to work out what I was doing at certain points in time and remembering the year I was playing certain fruits is helping me pinpoint the rough time. 
I think 2001 or 2002 was when they went from £15-25. I certainty remember playing vivid pie factory clones in 2002 and think they had recently been upgraded.
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#4
I have a weird recollection that it was the first day of 2002 for the £25s.
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#5
I first started playing in about 1991 and it was £4.80 token JP but it soon went up to £6 token JP.

I sort of drifted away not long after but restarted in early 2009 when it was £35 JP but as Glendale said it soon went up to £70 JP.

I suspect someone on here will have a full list for you though anyway.
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#6
Hum id be interested too. Now i didnt play a machine till 2001, and they were already 25 quid, incidentally i dont ever remember playing a 15 quid machine so perhaps the 25 eara started a couple years before that? Were all 15s instantly upgraded leaving none? U can still find 70s around today well after 100 quids came out but i guess they arnt upgradedable but there were certainly 35s around well after 70s came out. Anyway was the first 70 really 2009? Just feels earlier to me like maybe 2007? Dunno. Now the dond show came out 2005 so it seems impossible for a themed machine to be out before that and i remember the first one, it seemed upgraded 35s came in about a year/ 18 months after? And the 35 era didnt seem to last long no more than a year to me. Sure i remember playing a cops and robbers 70 machine where u (as usual) get three keys to activate dond and the box spins before u exchange for the game but it wasnt dond themed and it feels like 2007? Anyway as its before my time and ive heard it being mentioned before anyone want to elaborate about token machines, does that mean if u won 4.80 or whatever u had to exchange at the bar for cash? Sounds awkward. And so when did 5 quid machines come in? Were they just like kids versions of the 25 and interchangeable?
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#7
(07-17-2018, 10:21 AM)Hungryant Wrote: Anyway was the first 70 really 2009? Just feels earlier to me like maybe 2007? Dunno.

No mate at the start of 2009 it was definitely still £35.

(07-17-2018, 10:21 AM)Hungryant Wrote: Now the dond show came out 2005 so it seems impossible for a themed machine to be out before that and i remember the first one

If you mean can you beat the banker that came out on £25 and was later upgraded to £35

(07-17-2018, 10:21 AM)Hungryant Wrote: Anyway as its before my time and ive heard it being mentioned before anyone want to elaborate about token machines, does that mean if u won 4.80 or whatever u had to exchange at the bar for cash? Sounds awkward.

When I originally started it was £4.80 token JP - the biggest cash win possible was half that so £2.40 - often whatever paid £2.40 could give a repeat though. Sometimes wins over £2.40 but less than £4.80 were possible so they would be token too. This upgraded to £3 cash and £6 token later on.

Yeah the tokens were a pain - you put them back in the machine or buy drinks, etc at the bar with them. But different suppliers tokens were not the same so you couldn't necessarily spend tokens in a different pub from the one you got them in.
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#8
You used to be able to cash tokens in for high st vouchers in alot of seaside arcades and piers, remember buying a biro with each pound voucher to convert to cash!
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#9
Really? Dunno if you're joking but very funny either way.
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#10
I started as a teenager in the early 90s. The fruits were 10p a go and I seem to remember either £6 or £6.40 jackers. Although the topic-starter said £6 so I must had mis-remembered £6.40. Then there was £8 but I don't recall playing an £8 except for cat D which can be either £5 or £8.

£10 was 1996 IIRC, which a milestone as it was a ballpark figure and the first jackpot to do away with tokens. Can't remember which month it was.

£15 was late 1998. I remember I started university that year, and in October of that year, the students' union fruits were all already at £15.

£25 was New Year 2002. Easily my favourite era. It had a good run as well, 5 years.

£35 was New Year 2007. Still some entertaining fruits as a casual.

£70 was summer 2009, maybe June or July time. The only £70ers I got on well with were the legacy £35ers that got given the upgrade e.g. Crazy Chair. Any "fresh" £70ers didn't agree with me.

£100 was New Year 2014. Game over for me.

Related to this thread, what were the old section numbers pre-2007?

I think cat D was section 3 (£5 / £8 jackers).

Cat C was section 5 with most of the historic jackpots. £35 was the last jackpot to be section 3, then in 2007 the Gambling Act made it a cat C.

What were club machines classed as? They became cat B4 under the new Act but what was their section number?

Cat B3 machines e.g. Reel King were previously under section 16.
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#11
I'm serious Hungryant, think biros were the cheapest thing in W H Smiths, about 10p.
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#12
@moveit
There were no 10p play £6 jackpot machines and there was never a £6.40 jackpot.
The stake jumped from 10p to 20p play when the jackpots changed from £4 to £4.80 jackpots. As a teenager the 20p play/£4.80 machines suddenly seemed to have more "serious" wins and streaks increased from (£10-15 to £30-40)

10p play £5 jackpot machines came out many years later (during the £25 or £35 era) and are still around today.
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#13
I have had over 20 holds on £4 and £6 wins loads of times! Rags to Riches and Crazy Pays could go mental, the latter gave me over 20 holds on the £6 sevens! Terrible conversion to cash that session though, think I was only 20-30 in to get and left about £25 up! Pretty sure that would have been 23-24 years ago!

Ah memories! :)
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#14
It was quite a skill back then to be able to convert tokens to cash. Some places used to piss me off because most of the machines could go "tokens full" and stopp accepting them so you could either put em back in what you got them out of (normally for a bad return as just paid out) or take them home and hope some different machines would accept them next time (which they prob wouldn't).
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#15
Ah yes the good old project days!! Tbf I did see a crazy pays on £15 hold 10 times.

I’d love to go back to the token days. Much more fun trying to graft out a wage.
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#16
(07-17-2018, 01:16 PM)dondplayer Wrote:
(07-17-2018, 10:21 AM)Hungryant Wrote: Anyway as its before my time and ive heard it being mentioned before anyone want to elaborate about token machines, does that mean if u won 4.80 or whatever u had to exchange at the bar for cash? Sounds awkward.

When I originally started it was £4.80 token JP - the biggest cash win possible was half that so £2.40 - often whatever paid £2.40 could give a repeat though. Sometimes wins over £2.40 but less than £4.80 were possible so they would be token too. This upgraded to £3 cash and £6 token later on.

Yeah the tokens were a pain - you put them back in the machine or buy drinks, etc at the bar with them. But different suppliers tokens were not the same so you couldn't necessarily spend tokens in a different pub from the one you got them in.

The landlords usually would not swap tokens for cash nor give change from them - so each token was a 20p token and if you gave over £2.20 for a drink that costs £2.15 you would not get the 5p back.

You got the odd landlord who would give change and very rarely one who would cash them up.

(07-17-2018, 10:27 PM)416 Wrote: @moveit
There were no 10p play £6 jackpot machines and there was never a £6.40 jackpot.
The stake jumped from 10p to 20p play when the jackpots changed from £4 to £4.80 jackpots.  As a teenager the 20p play/£4.80 machines suddenly seemed to have more "serious" wins and streaks increased from (£10-15 to £30-40)

10p play £5 jackpot machines came out many years later (during the £25 or £35 era) and are still around today.

Correct the £4.80 token JP machines (and £6 token JP machines) were 20p a go.
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#17
Its a wonder we got to where we are now.
20p a push sounds expensive to win a 6 quid jp, yeah u might get some streaks or repeats,  and then u dont get the money but maybe a free drink lol! Thinking about it now i remember machines being described as 'all cash jps' and i remember thinking what else would they be. Still sure i remember 25 jp in 2001 though. Funnily enough anyone ever see 'old' tv programs on repeat with scenes of fruit machines in pub areas, and see machines like grand blaster cash etc and think, i remember playing that?
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#18
Lol I still have a Grand Blaster!
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#19
(07-17-2018, 10:27 PM)416 Wrote: @moveit
There were no 10p play £6 jackpot machines and there was never a £6.40 jackpot.
The stake jumped from 10p to 20p play when the jackpots changed from £4 to £4.80 jackpots.  As a teenager the 20p play/£4.80 machines suddenly seemed to have more "serious" wins and streaks increased from (£10-15 to £30-40)

10p play £5 jackpot machines came out many years later (during the £25 or £35 era) and are still around today.

Further to this, the stake actually DID go up to 5 pounds very very briefly, but they thought the sight of all these 5 quid notes pasted on machines would be dangerous.... So they knocked the JP down by 20p and saved themselves the trouble. Think there were a couple of Crests (Probably scrapped now) that had the 5 quid decals/decoration.
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#20
(07-19-2018, 05:34 PM)Peko Wrote:
(07-17-2018, 10:27 PM)416 Wrote: @moveit
There were no 10p play £6 jackpot machines and there was never a £6.40 jackpot.
The stake jumped from 10p to 20p play when the jackpots changed from £4 to £4.80 jackpots.  As a teenager the 20p play/£4.80 machines suddenly seemed to have more "serious" wins and streaks increased from (£10-15 to £30-40)

10p play £5 jackpot machines came out many years later (during the £25 or £35 era) and are still around today.

Further to this, the stake actually DID go up to 5 pounds very very briefly, but they thought the sight of all these 5 quid notes pasted on machines would be dangerous.... So they knocked the JP down by 20p and saved themselves the trouble. Think there were a couple of Crests (Probably scrapped now) that had the 5 quid decals/decoration.

Not 100% correct Peko.  They manufacturers were pretty convinced that the jackpot would be increased to £5 so made machines with the decals of a fiver, but they never actually paid £5.  There was even a machine called "A fistful of Fivers" which actually got re-branded to "A fistful of money" (still had a logo of a fist full of fivers though)
Gambling was still pretty well regulated back then, but the increased jackpot saw a big increase in the cash box with the 100% increase in stake.
Lots of tricks during this time too.
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