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I am a gambling addict
#1
Hi yes its true i am one/ an addict/compulsive gambler/  So i am going to have to stop forever, as i know what ever happens.  I just can't control myself.  One bet will always be 2 etc etc.

Its sad its come to this but i have no choice.  Although i would still like to be on this part of the forum and be the next james petherick of sorts but one that is hopefully more liked :S   But only in this section coz i won't be reading the other parts for obvious reasons.    

Thats if you still want me around and don't mind i post on here.

I'd like to a diary of sorts........to let you know how i am getting on.  I know you can do it on other places but you people almost seem like friends, which gives it more point.  On gamcare everyone is really just a stranger..

Let me know your thoughts.

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#2
hi, a very and open and extremely honest admission, and well done. thats the hardest part, and i have made the topic "sticky" for you so your section is always on top in this part of the forum.

Your more than Welcome to post whatever you wish, and this forum supports each and every member whatever their decision. And yes were all friends on here, whether you have met anybody or not, the forum is moderated well aswell. thats why its a friendly group.

so you post whatever you wish.

and if you want a chat with anybody or just feel like blowing your emotions out, then feel free in this section or pm a member of staff.

Your on the first step to recovery. well done.  drink
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#3
Bit of a sweeping generalisation, but most here have an obsession with gambling, namely fruitmachines... most people seem to think gambling is only an issue if you lose money, usually more money than they can afford at that.

I know for myself the main consumption for my gambiling is time, spend far to long doing it, but I enjoy it on the whole.

If your a JP, then are you blaming your problems on anything and everyone bar yourself?

As for places like gamcare i'd say most of the users of that site are those that have been affected financially due to gambling losses, grasp on the other hand has an proactive anti gambling stance, most there seem to be hell bent on blaming the industry or the government for their problems(JP has that motive).

If gambling is a problem for yourself for whatever reason then you put in place self help, enlist the help of others and use any means you feel comfortable with in combatting it.
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#4
Best way to be mate, I found buying my own bandit helped me stop going to arcades for the sake of it, so they may help U in your 1st steps if a £30 fruit machine stops U going for a punt once then its helped lol but honestly, you keep ya self busy and look as yourself as now a viewer not a partaker
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#5
I am a classic case of where fobt betting mania has got the better me.  Although i think if the terminals had not come into such force.  I'd still be the same as i was gambling on fruits and horse races at 16.

I am not quite at rock bottom either as that happened when i sold my flat to pay of my debts via gambling, then lost it all, didn't pay my debts.    And then stupidly after i lost that i took out a £10,000 conslidation loan and lost that in 1 week  betting on football matches.
I think about £4000 was the biggest bet i ever placed.  Thats was about 9 years ago now and from then i've gambled pretty much every penny i have into those machines.

I would more say i am half bottom now.  As one months wage losses is really nothing compared to that and I just want a life that is not gambling.  There is so much more to life and i am still young enough to do stuff.  33 to be precise
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#6
(12-22-2012, 02:31 PM)Buddylove4000 link Wrote: Best way to be mate, I found buying my own bandit helped me stop going to arcades for the sake of it, so they may help U in your 1st steps if a £30 fruit machine stops U going for a punt once then its helped lol but honestly, you keep ya self busy and look as yourself as now a viewer not a partaker

Everyone is entitled to any opinion they want to make, on how to stop.  I kinda would like this section to actually help others as much as myself.  So if anyone else has ever got problems come here and chat. 
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#7
From now on i am going to be a compulsive winner.  Just my winning is different to normal gamblers.  Every day that is a gamble free one is like getting a result :)
a week is like a good win, a month a jackpot and a year a big huge mega win. 



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#8
(12-22-2012, 01:59 PM)keykeythe1 link Wrote: hi, a very and open and extremely honest admission, and well done. thats the hardest part, and i have made the topic "sticky" for you so your section is always on top in this part of the forum.

Your more than Welcome to post whatever you wish, and this forum supports each and every member whatever their decision. And yes were all friends on here, whether you have met anybody or not, the forum is moderated well aswell. thats why its a friendly group.

so you post whatever you wish.

and if you want a chat with anybody or just feel like blowing your emotions out, then feel free in this section or pm a member of staff.

Your on the first step to recovery. well done.  drink

Thanks thats very kind of you to do that for me. 

I do think its really important that although i know this site is about the enjoyment of gambling.  Its nice that you can recognise the darker side of it as well and not want to push the issue to one side.

I will do my best not to gamble alhough i know its not that easy to just stop, when you have the addiction like mine.    But i am quietly confident i can do it this time because i am not going to shy away from it.  By that i mean instead of being ashamed of what i have done.  Be loud and proud, i made a mistake, i got up and did something about it!
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#9
I wish you well in your quest to stop, it can be done, but not easy. its not only the money but time that gambling takes away from you. You just have to take it one day at a time and write down on a calendar or in this diary whether you have gambled or not each day/week.  FOBTs are very addictive and get inside your head, so frustrating when you see it land right next to your number, or on the number you had been betting on previously.

There are things that can help like self exclusion, put limits or exclude from on line sites, give your bank card to someone else for a while until you feel like your back in control again
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#10
If I was to give up gambling I would need to have a plan of what to do with my spare time then to cut out everything gambling related.  No Jackpotty, no going to Gala to play bingo, not even owning a machine for fun and even cutting of from some friends for a time.

You must plan ahead and go for it 100%.

Good Luck
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#11
(12-22-2012, 04:08 PM)Mark On Fire link Wrote: If I was to give up gambling I would need to have a plan of what to do with my spare time then to cut out everything gambling related.  No Jackpotty, no going to Gala to play bingo, not even owning a machine for fun and even cutting of from some friends for a time.

Completely agree with that.
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#12
(12-22-2012, 03:46 PM)bishman link Wrote: I wish you well in your quest to stop, it can be done, but not easy. its not only the money but time that gambling takes away from you. You just have to take it one day at a time and write down on a calendar or in this diary whether you have gambled or not each day/week.  FOBTs are very addictive and get inside your head, so frustrating when you see it land right next to your number, or on the number you had been betting on previously.

There are things that can help like self exclusion, put limits or exclude from on line sites, give your bank card to someone else for a while until you feel like your back in control again

Thanks for your comments and their is some good advice there.  I am going to be doing all the things possible to try and help in my quest to stop.  I am going exclude myself from every bookie in york which is where i live.  Can you exclude yourself from bingo as well, i guess you can?  Exclude myself from nobles.  Can you actually self exclude from pubs?  lol may take some time................and how mad would that be to do that. Gambling should be easy to stop if i dont have my card who i am giving to a very close friend that i trust.  But yes i will be looking at getting the software to stop/  Does anyone know how it all works?
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#13
(12-22-2012, 04:08 PM)Mark On Fire link Wrote: If I was to give up gambling I would need to have a plan of what to do with my spare time then to cut out everything gambling related.  No Jackpotty, no going to Gala to play bingo, not even owning a machine for fun and even cutting of from some friends for a time.

You must plan ahead and go for it 100%.

Good Luck

I find it very interesting that you say gambling takes up quite a bit of your time.  It used to mine as well when i 1st started and was a little more in control, or maybe i just had more money then.  But yes i did do it to fill in being alone.   Now i lose it all so quick because of my stupid system, well ex system.  Which was £100 a spin on any random numbers.   It won actually about never but i always went back to it thinking today has to finally be the day that it wins.  But it never did.  Never even got to £1000.
But when i 1st started i play red and black.  I used to win some decent money on that....Until i got bored waiting to get a sequence of 4 colours.  Global draw was good for that.   Now when itbox was about it was really good for £100 red or black.  Almost felt fair if you get me.  And ladcrooks was terrible on red and black but the best for playing numbers, especially when you could bet loads on some. and win a grand in a spin.  
I will tell you a story about ladbrooks roulette in a minute.....but back to the point.   I have loads of things to do now so this should not be to hard.   I work in the day, i play tennis one evening and football. I am going to goto g.a meetings.  I am going to get councelling.  I am starting a college course in january for web design.  I actually have a part time job as well 2 evenings a week. I sell things on ebay, i will write on this.  I will join some net dating sites and meet some women.  See some friends/  organise my little friends holidays i like as i enjoy getting away.   Count the money i will now have ;)  And so the list goes on.    So i think on that score i am going to be just fine.
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#14
This is a very true story about ladcrooks roulette and i think true for any roulette but theres is the worse.   £100 red, lose.  Exit the game £100 red.   Now i did this about ten times in a row.  Until i changed to a pound on red, then i won.  Betted again £100 and lost.  Went for black this time £100 lost.  Red £100 won.  Red £100 lost.  I gave up then.  Thats was my 1st ever major loss because they changed the game where you could not bet on the numbers anymore.

But thats just one example really they all play like that to some extent, no matter what game you play.

Now i am not saying this is rigged in a way most people seem to think it is when you lose.  Although I am just as likely to say it as the next gal or guy after i have lost heavily.   I am saying that it is set up to make people like me and you think you can actually beat the system.    Thats the whole hook of it to people who wonder why people play it so much and for such high stakes.  when all you get in the end for your efforts is basically jack shit and no money for the week or month ahead.  

SO MY SHOUT IS THEY HAVE BUILT A SYSTEM THAT IS BASED ON PEOPLES ADDICTIVE BEHAVIOUR PATTERNS AS THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY ALL RUN ON>  IS BASED ON REAL RESEARCH INTO PEOPLES GAMBLING HABITS AND HOW THEY PLAY>  ITS ACTUAL DATA RECORDINGS THAT IS GOING ON>  THE COMPUTER IS LEARNING TO WIN MORE AND MORE OFF US ALL EVERYTIME WE PLAY BY GIVING US JUST THE RIGHT MIX OF WINS< LOSES AND NEAT MISSES/ WHILE AT THE SAME TIME STICKING TO THE LAWS BY PAYING OUT WHAT IT NEEDS TOO< FULL WELL KNOWING 60% OF THE TIME>  EITHER THE CUSTOMER WILL PUT IT BACK IN THERE OR THEN< OR LATER AND QUITE A FEW WILL PUT EVEN MORE THAN THAT IN.  AND IN THE MEAN TIME MORE PEOPLE GET HOOKED SO THEY CAN EASILY SHOW THEY ARE PAYING THE RIGHT AMOUNTS IF IT EVER IS ASKED>  THEY ARE NOT DAFT...........THE OTHER 40% THE NONE ADDICTS THAT WALK WITH THE MONEY AND NEVER GIVE IT BACK>  THEY CAN AFFORD TO DO THAT ON SUCH A HUGE TURNOVER. 
BASICALLY THEY ARE GETTING AS MANY PEOPLE ADDICTED AS THEY CAN< AS THEY KNOW ITS PROVEN TO BE FULL PROOF WE ARE ALL SHEEP


  How many times do you see an old guy in the shop.  Betting lets say £20 spread everywhere, 20ps 40ps on numbers.  To maybe win a maximum if he is lucky £40 most of the time he is lucky just to get his stake back.  Then the dreaded not covered number kicks in. Bets again loses, more money into the machine, loses again, and again.  Gets a little run of a few wins.  About breaking even now.  No number covered, no number covered, a break even win, small loss, small loss. Bank gone, busted out.   Now think of the logic in it, there is none, its almost like a pointless bet as you can't really win.  But 100's of people are doing it.  100s like you and me.  What ever bet you are playing on them you can't win on.    But i bet you anything the win percentage if you compared it to a casino roulette wheel would be the same if not slightly higher.  

To sum up what i am trying to say to make it simple is.  Its not rigged,  its just very clever what you they have done.   And if you were like me trying to beat a computer.  Give up now like me.  It has many 1000s of hours of experience against yours maybe weeks in actual playing time at best.  Its like trying to win a football match with 1 man vs 11.    Its never going to happen
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#15
I also think this theory is applicable across the board.  But it works best with roulette.  Thats the bookies, online casinos. real cash cow
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#16
I think they are very cleverly programmed and obviously need to be as there would be no point for the bookies if they never made any money.  I am also undecided as to whether they can be controlled either behind the counter or in head office.  I read a story on another site months ago about a guy who had done thousands in one day on them in one shop, he was on good terms with the manager of the shop and somehow when he was down to his last £100 the manager made a phone call and told him not to play until he had got off the phone, which is what he did and afterwards he had an amazing win streak and recovered about 2k.  I know this is more than likely just gossip but it makes you wonder.  

The worse thing about them is that you can do £100 spins, to me that is insane and should only be allowed in casinos, not in the multitude of bookies shops on every high street.  It all seems very safe I used to tell myself that i would just do £2 spins and make my money last, but after a couple of losing spins I would start adding more numbers, suddenly you are doing £5, £10 spins,£20, now you need a big win to recover so instead of 20p on numbers you are doing £2 on lots of numbers.  

I used to think that it was just me being unlucky and everyone else seemed to be winning, but just reading the various forums I think it is a huge problem and something should be done to help those that cannot help themselves.  The self exlusion process should be made better and really the easiest way would be if you had to become a member, then when excluded you had to give up your card, no card=no fobt.  But it will never happen because the more people that come in off the street and get hooked the better for the bookies and the government.  Who cares if you've just spunked your wages in 2 hours, they certainly dont!  
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#17
I agree my friend that something needs to be done about the machines.  As FOBT gambling is the worse form to get hooked on due to the speed of the loses and the quickness of it all.  Thats what hooks us i am afraid and if you cant control it, then dont feel ashamed or that there is anything wrong with.  Its just in you that you have bad behaviour pattern bought out by gambling, its in me and many others of people.  Even non addicts who have never gambled before can get hooked for life much more easily than what was out there before the machines were not here.

Just do what i am doing.  Never gamble again because one bet will always become 2, then 3 and 4 and so on.  You get the picture ;)
and the more you gamble eventually you will lose.  Even if you won from £1 to £10,000 you would not stop.  Until its gone.
So its pointless.  The only way you can be free is never do it i am afraid.  Hey its not that bad you know to stop.  You will actually have some money mate.  And enjoy yourself with it.



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#18
I am a lot better now than what i used to be, I would literally do most of my wages over the weekend after a payday.  through self excluding from most of them and giving my card up, it has been quite a few months since i have got myself into a situation where i couldnt pay the rent or things like that.  its a good feeling to end the month and still have money in your account. 
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#19
well fair play to you for doing something about your addiction.  I hope the recovery you are on continues to keep on rolling on and on.

And everyone who wants to stop gambling, i fully am behind which ever way works best for them.  As each one of us is different.

But i really would like to help people here as much as i want to help myself in many ways.

Would anyone be interested in a Jackpotty Forums meet with a twist.  No gambling............open to anyone of course, but especially if you think you are an addict, or who want to cut down .  Meeting people with a similar problem may help you.



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#20
Sounds like a plan there, if U come to a standard meet and request to not play a machine , we will do all we can to stop you ( legal disclaimer required as we may cut your arms off with a near blunt weatherspoons knife)
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