Online Casinos/Chasing Losses/Addiction
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So I’d been doing really well just playing fruits the way they’re supposed to played, make a profit and leave at the right time without getting crazy impulses to carry on gambling after a win. I was sitting ok with over a grand in the bank with just a few days til payday.. then I had a do on Jackpot King, and ended up losing about £150, say.. then I wasn’t happy with that loss and I wanted it back so spent another £500 on roulette without really winning anything.. next day I spend another 600 on roulette/centurion fortune spins again without winning a fucking thing.. 

Then payday comes and I think it would be a great idea to deposit a modest amount of £50 to try and recuperate some losses.. £50 turned into £380. Now I’m not in a great position so I’ve self-excluded myself voluntarily from about 5 online casinos, added to the multiple casinos I’ve already  self-Excluded from.  Yet there’s still an absolute plethora of casinos I could still join if I really wished.  Hopefully
I’ll keep chipping away, signing up and then self excluding immediately.  I don’t believ GamBlock would work for me.

So, yet again I realise I’m still delusional and that in fact, I’m still a gambler (despite trying hypnotherapy and having positive results which took away any urges to gamble, albeit temporarily) even though I tried to kid myself I was over my 16 year addiction and I’d just continue to make modest money occasionally
playing ‘playables’.

What the hell are we supposed to do to actually not chase our losses? Because ultimately that is one of the main things that keeps us in the ‘game’.  We can’t let go of the thousands we’ve lost over the years.  It might not seem a lot to some of you, the losses I’m going on about, but add these £1000 losses up over 16 years and you soon start to realise how many houses and cars you could’ve owned by now.  How different your life could be. 

I’m thankful I’m not a drug addict, I’ve never smoked and only drink occasionally, albeit to excess.  But maybe I might’ve been better off being a drug user and a smoker because this invisible illness some of us carry weighs us down a hell of a lot, and nobody can see what’s going on behind the smokescreen and the nice image of ourselves we like to portray. 

So yeah I’m rambling on a bit now, and to be honest I don’t even care if nobody replies it’s just nice to get your thoughts off your chest before you drive yourself completely insane.  And it’s kind of cool that nobody really knows who I am so I suppose I can’t really be judged or feel too embarrassed about my admissions.  I still aim to carry on playing fruits, and rebuilding, but I will be contacting GamCare again and self excluding from all bookmakers in my area pretty soon.  So hopefully this time next month I’ll have a more positive outlook on things.. 

Depressing rant over haha
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(10-31-2017, 05:54 AM)Moff Wrote: So I’d been doing really well just playing fruits the way they’re supposed to played, make a profit and leave at the right time without getting crazy impulses to carry on gambling after a win. I was sitting ok with over a grand in the bank with just a few days til payday.. then I had a do on Jackpot King, and ended up losing about £150, say.. then I wasn’t happy with that loss and I wanted it back so spent another £500 on roulette without really winning anything.. next day I spend another 600 on roulette/centurion fortune spins again without winning a fucking thing.. 

Then payday comes and I think it would be a great idea to deposit a modest amount of £50 to try and recuperate some losses.. £50 turned into £380. Now I’m not in a great position so I’ve self-excluded myself voluntarily from about 5 online casinos, added to the multiple casinos I’ve already  self-Excluded from.  Yet there’s still an absolute plethora of casinos I could still join if I really wished.  Hopefully
I’ll keep chipping away, signing up and then self excluding immediately.  I don’t believ GamBlock would work for me.

So, yet again I realise I’m still delusional and that in fact, I’m still a gambler (despite trying hypnotherapy and having positive results which took away any urges to gamble, albeit temporarily) even though I tried to kid myself I was over my 16 year addiction and I’d just continue to make modest money occasionally
playing ‘playables’.

What the hell are we supposed to do to actually not chase our losses? Because ultimately that is one of the main things that keeps us in the ‘game’.  We can’t let go of the thousands we’ve lost over the years.  It might not seem a lot to some of you, the losses I’m going on about, but add these £1000 losses up over 16 years and you soon start to realise how many houses and cars you could’ve owned by now.  How different your life could be. 

I’m thankful I’m not a drug addict, I’ve never smoked and only drink occasionally, albeit to excess.  But maybe I might’ve been better off being a drug user and a smoker because this invisible illness some of us carry weighs us down a hell of a lot, and nobody can see what’s going on behind the smokescreen and the nice image of ourselves we like to portray. 

So yeah I’m rambling on a bit now, and to be honest I don’t even care if nobody replies it’s just nice to get your thoughts off your chest before you drive yourself completely insane.  And it’s kind of cool that nobody really knows who I am so I suppose I can’t really be judged or feel too embarrassed about my admissions.  I still aim to carry on playing fruits, and rebuilding, but I will be contacting GamCare again and self excluding from all bookmakers in my area pretty soon.  So hopefully this time next month I’ll have a more positive outlook on things.. 

Depressing rant over haha


I think you may get more replies than you think. It was a very decent, honest post and lots of opportunity for discussion. Thanks for sharing
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Sounds really similar to me to be honest mate... I made a similar post a couple of months ago and decided to totally quit. I did great for just over a month and then caved but tried to be more sensible. I probably made well over a grand last month, and payday was just round the corner so i was in a good situation. Day before payday I manage to spaff a grand in an arcade, shit. Why would I play randoms again after doing so well on the fruits and staying off them so long?

Security I guess. I knew payday was coming up and thought id have a go. After this loss I burned another grand online in the days between then and now. So here I am again, still a gambler, still feeling sick, and still hiding it from my mates and family.

I'm still only young but I've had problems with drugs in the past and am also an ex smoker. This one trumps them all!
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Online casinos are far more dangerous than high street bookies for me. Having to put in real cash in a real world environment comes with so nany more stages to stop and think about what you are doing.

As the OP said it’s fine to block one casino but there are hundreds more, my only advice is if you do fancy a pint desposit what you are willing to lose, immediately put a deposit limit on and if needed self exclude as soon as your session finishes, that’s the only way to stop the compulsive tilt gamble. If you can’t trust Yourself to not then sign up to a new casino then you probably have a bigger problem than you realize.
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I'm quite certain that addiction is a choice, not a disease.

My dad was an alcoholic and I'm a gambling 'addict'. But the only 'cure' for either of these 'diseases' is 'stop doing it'.

Now I'm not for one moment suggesting it's easy. Winning money has been proven to affect the brain, and it's a nice feeling. And the body's natural pain protection is to make you forget the bad things, which is why you remember the happy times.

The way to stop gambling is to choose not to do it, and put barriers in place for when your guard drops. Speak to your bank and put withdrawal limits on so even if you slip up it's only a small amount.

I've got considerable experience of this if you want to dm me.

Ed
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#6
This post pretty much sums me up aswell.

Im not exactly living in a box on bread and water, but am pretty skint atm, and should be putting all my money towards bills and stuff, but theres always an itch to have a punt, which is usually fine at first. Its the tilt/chasing losses that causes issues. I still like to make sure I pay off the important stuff/what I need, but the amount of money I spunk that could be put to much better use is sickening, and tilting online is also sickening. Theres just no easy way to stop yourself apart from cold turkey imo, as theres just too many casinos to sign up to, which is why I dont bother to self exclude.
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(10-31-2017, 08:43 AM)jerz92 Wrote: Sounds really similar to me to be honest mate... I made a similar post a couple of months ago and decided to totally quit.  I did great for just over a month and then caved but tried to be more sensible.  I probably made well over a grand last month, and payday was just round the corner so i was in a good situation.  Day before payday I manage to spaff a grand in an arcade, shit.  Why would I play randoms again after doing so well on the fruits and staying off them so long?

Security I guess.  I knew payday was coming up and thought id have a go.  After this loss I burned another grand online in the days between then and now.  So here I am again, still a gambler, still feeling sick, and still hiding it from my mates and family.

I'm still only young but I've had problems with drugs in the past and am also an ex smoker.  This one trumps them all!

I feel your pain brother.  Only a PM away if you ever wanna discuss
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(10-31-2017, 12:53 PM)danielj Wrote: Online casinos are far more dangerous than high street bookies for me. Having to put in real cash in a real world environment comes with so nany more stages to stop and think about what you are doing.

As the OP said it’s fine to block one casino but there are hundreds more, my only advice is if you do fancy a pint desposit what you are willing to lose, immediately put a deposit limit on and if needed self exclude as soon as your session finishes, that’s the only way to stop the compulsive tilt gamble. If you can’t trust Yourself to not then sign up to a new casino then you probably have a bigger problem than you realize.

I’ve never been massive on online casinos to be honest mate.. but I was bored at work with not a lot to do and I thought what a lot of us have probably thought in the past and thought cheeky £50.. must have played about 300 spins on Book of Ra without a feature so obviously gamblers’ fallacy creeps in ‘I must be due a feature’. The rest is history
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Likewise mate, feel free to hit me up anytime
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#10
A very honest post i’d Say!

I’ve probably made half a million on fruits and several other clues over the years but on the flip side I’ve probably lost half of that to the fobts and to the online scene and then the rest on general living costs and fancy holidays.

In some ways I’m really lucky, but if I didn’t have the fruits who knows what sort of mess I’d of been in right now. My parents, brothers and sisters think I’m dynamo or something and the sun shines out of my arse as I’m richer than them (even though I’m not) and make money without working! but little known to them I blow thousands of pounds and I have less money than they think. It’s a very secretive illness as you’re almost embarrassed by it. End of the day you have a choice to put that last £20 note in that fobt don’t you?? Ideam

I don’t think I’ll ever have a normal life where I have a career, wife, family as all I can think about 24/7 is gambling and I agree with Moff it slows you down in life like being attached to a ball and chain... a big secret invisible one
Marching on together
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(11-01-2017, 04:05 AM)Fenso Wrote: A very honest post i’d Say!

I’ve probably made half a million on fruits and several other clues over the years but on the flip side I’ve probably lost half of that to the fobts and to the online scene and then the rest on general living costs and fancy holidays.

In some ways I’m really lucky, but if I didn’t have the fruits who knows what sort of mess I’d of been in right now. My parents, brothers and sisters think I’m dynamo or something and the sun shines out of my arse as I’m richer than them (even though I’m not) and make money without working! but little known to them I blow thousands of pounds and I have less money than they think. It’s a very secretive illness as you’re almost embarrassed by it. End of the day you have a choice to put that last £20 note in that fobt don’t you?? Ideam

I don’t think I’ll ever have a normal life where I have a career, wife, family as all I can think about 24/7 is gambling and I agree with Moff it slows you down in life like being attached to a ball and chain... a big secret invisible one

Appreciate the reply Fenso! I reckon I’ve probably lost close to £150-200k as I’ve been gambling since I was a young teen.  For some reason I didn’t manage to get in the circle of knowledge when I was younger.. but maybe if I had I wouldn’t be doing my job now, earning between 45-50k a year.. but then that’s child’s play to what could’ve been made from various empties over the years.. but all the players I know from my childhood aren’t particularly proud of their appearance, haven’t really done anything with their good fortune..  and once their money has gone all they have to fall back on is what seems to be an increasingly rare amount of playables and the odd bit of info that comes up every now and again..

I recently came into some knowledge which was nice so I’ve been able to make some decent money back.. shame about the setback  Angry 

all I wanna do realistically is work my basic hours, play the odd fruit, make some decent money have a happy life without constant money worries caused by compulsive gambling on either £500s, FOBTs and online casinos.. can’t be that hard can it?? Haha
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#12
Be careful if you keep self excluding and moving on, one day you may sign up to a sister casino of which you might be excluded from the entire group as a result, and if so its likely you will only be notified if withdrawing a win - which you wont ever see one new gold pound of. Or you could lose, exclude, without ever knowing you was wasting your time and would not have received any withdrawal if you got lucky, essentially giving them a free roll on you.

Chin up son
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(11-02-2017, 03:07 AM)adamtheaddict Wrote: Be careful if you keep self excluding and moving on, one day you may sign up to a sister casino of which you might be excluded from the entire group as a result, and if so its likely you will only be notified if withdrawing a win - which you wont ever see one new gold pound of. Or you could lose, exclude, without ever knowing you was wasting your time and would not have received any withdrawal if you got lucky, essentially giving them a free  roll on you.

Chin up son

Cheers my friend.  I have no intentions of signing up to anymore sites, I’ve been stung a few times by the reverse withdrawal feature on some casinos, taking upto 48 hours just to even process a withdrawal so the whole thing just puts me off.  None of it ever feels legit.  I’ll stick to my £5 limit on my coral account for the odd lottery and football acca and that’s my lot!
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It’s a wrank way of life in my opinion and probably like most of you I’m subject to it.

Most of it forever feels like I’m living on my nerves especially on off days. Problem is my partner has now got a really bad problem with the fruities and plays them wrecklessly.

Having no one to talk to doesn’t help much either.
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(11-27-2017, 03:13 PM)BiffoTheBear Wrote: It’s a wrank way of life in my opinion and probably like most of you I’m subject to it.

Most of it forever feels like I’m living on my nerves especially on off days. Problem is my partner has now got a really bad problem with the fruities and plays them wrecklessly.

Having no one to talk to doesn’t help much either.

My PMs are always open my friend
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True gent thanks.
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Very familiar tales to those on here.
I gambled compulsively for 25 years. Despite a relapse I haven't gambled for nearly 3 years now. Checked my current account today and noticed I have 2 months worth of wages in there (plus a savings account) and get paid on Friday. Going to Japan in just over a week.
Just a few years back I remember looking in my empty wallet having maxed out the daily withdrawal limit on my debit and credit cards. I don't feel like gambling, but still wouldn't trust myself in Vegas etc. Best of luck to all those struggling to beat their addictions
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(11-27-2017, 06:03 PM)416 Wrote: Very familiar tales to those on here.
I gambled compulsively for 25 years. Despite a relapse I haven't gambled for nearly 3 years now. Checked my current account today and noticed I have 2 months worth of wages in there (plus a savings account) and get paid on Friday. Going to Japan in just over a week.
Just a few years back I remember looking in my empty wallet having maxed out the daily withdrawal limit on my debit and credit cards. I don't feel like gambling, but still wouldn't trust myself in Vegas etc. Best of luck to all those struggling to beat their addictions

Great to hear all the positives there mate and good luck for the future.
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(11-27-2017, 06:03 PM)416 Wrote: Very familiar tales to those on here.
I gambled compulsively for 25 years. Despite a relapse I haven't gambled for nearly 3 years now. Checked my current account today and noticed I have 2 months worth of wages in there (plus a savings account) and get paid on Friday. Going to Japan in just over a week.
Just a few years back I remember looking in my empty wallet having maxed out the daily withdrawal limit on my debit and credit cards. I don't feel like gambling, but still wouldn't trust myself in Vegas etc. Best of luck to all those struggling to beat their addictions

Fair play to you mate long may it continue.  Care to share your coping strategies?!
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(11-27-2017, 07:13 PM)Moff Wrote:
(11-27-2017, 06:03 PM)416 Wrote: Very familiar tales to those on here.
I gambled compulsively for 25 years. Despite a relapse I haven't gambled for nearly 3 years now. Checked my current account today and noticed I have 2 months worth of wages in there (plus a savings account) and get paid on Friday. Going to Japan in just over a week.
Just a few years back I remember looking in my empty wallet having maxed out the daily withdrawal limit on my debit and credit cards. I don't feel like gambling, but still wouldn't trust myself in Vegas etc. Best of luck to all those struggling to beat their addictions

Fair play to you mate long may it continue.  Care to share your coping strategies?!

This is gonna sound obvious, but it's true.  You have to want to stop.
Sure, I'd "wanted" to stop thousands of times when I'd done my bollocks in previously, but as soon as I had a bit of spare cash and I'd seen someone just drop £50-60 in a fruit machine that idea of stopping became a distant memory.
I remember the first time I really wanted to stop.  I'd had a shit day at work and popped in Paddy Power and put a score in.  I then lost £380 in less than 5 minutes which included going to the cash machine next door 3 times and withdrawing £100 each time.  
I stopped looking at people playing fruit machines, I stopped looking at oddschecker.com for football odds on saturday mornings and going to the casino.  After a few weeks I even found myself going in to pubs for something to eat/drink and not even noticing what fruit machines they had.  I distanced myself from anyone who gambled or who might tempt me to gamble and over the course of a few weeks the desire to gamble lessened.  
I think I'll always be a compulsive gambler .... hopefully just one that doesn't gamble.
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