The Bandits Online slot adventures
#61
Someone hit 3800x on fruit warp at 20p a spin, let me know if anyone ever gets that at 20 quid a spin ;)
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#62
Some games definitely seem to play different on higher stakes. I have played A LOT of raging rhino over the last couple of years and the decent features on £4 and above stakes seem much more elusive. Never had one over about 400x. On 80p, £1.20 etc I've had double figure features of 1000xish. I'd say my play overall in that time period would be a 50/50 split in terms of stakes. Maybe I've just been unlucky but it just feels like it doesn't want to put a £4000 feature in. Not saying it can't do it, just saying it is much more reluctant the higher the stake.
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#63
(04-05-2017, 10:12 AM)ob Wrote: Of course it works out that way in terms of wins and x stake hits!!!! The percentage is the same on all stakes there's no reason it wouldn't work that way!!! It was a silly comment "want to see what it's capable off" russ was right, what you mean to say is "I want to see how massive a win I can get when gambling at high stakes".

U.K. Based b3 etc not the same though as there's different percentages and different winplans etc per stake and all stakes capped at a 500 jp rather than a multiplier of the initial stake.


Everyone has and is of course entitled to their opinion Ob but from personal experience I don't agree. I think it's entirely possible the game decides a value it wants to pay rather than a X stake win and therefore on higher stakes you'll see less of a X stake monster a lot of the time, of course if you programmed the games in question you can certainly set me straight on that!!!!

Also mate, in my book, I want to see what it is capable of and I want to see how massive a win I can get on high stakes is the exact same statement!!!!

Overuse of exclamation marks intended!!!!

Nah seriously though, anything I say in my videos is just off the cuff laddy, I think many would agree with what I've said though. They just don't play the same in a X stake fashion on higher stakes, in my opinion. It's my opinion mate, it doesn't need shooting down.
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#64
There's defiantly games that have independent stakes online. Each stake is 98% but defiantly independent. Novamatics are for sure.

Really enjoy the videos JPM. Hours worth of once upon a jackpot please. They're by far your best reactions. Regardless of wether Peter Kay makes an appearance or not.
The future is much like the present, only longer.
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#65
(04-05-2017, 09:40 AM)JPMMonopoly60 Wrote:
(03-05-2017, 12:03 PM)russthebus Wrote: Says things like, "I am playing on £8 on book of dead, just because I want to see what its capable of doing"

REALLY?

Why not just work out it will be the same as playing at £1 but x8

weak justification in head to brain out? why not just say this is what I like to do because I get buzz from playing higher stakes?

must make quite a bit from affiliate marketing or have a massive bankroll to be playing those sort of sessions.

I find it quite funny when rocknrolla says he gets a small fee per sign up... does not mention the ongoing commission percentage though.

I always want to see big winners, but going to get crushed at sometime at any level eventually.

Guess its why the casinos let them have unlimited bonuses etc, they will get a good wedge back eventually.


I don't think it's ever as simple as just saying it'll play like playing on £1 but x8 mate, never really works out that way in terms of wins and x stake hits.

Also where you mention about the ongoing commission percentage, there are many deals available to affiliates, some don't have ongoing commission percentages.

As for unlimited bonuses, I wish lol i get bonuses a lot on Casumo but i'm guessing that's because I've deposited north of £80k there, I don't really use bonuses on any of the other casinos I play at.

(04-05-2017, 10:12 AM)ob Wrote: Of course it works out that way in terms of wins and x stake hits!!!! The percentage is the same on all stakes there's no reason it wouldn't work that way!!! It was a silly comment "want to see what it's capable off" russ was right, what you mean to say is "I want to see how massive a win I can get when gambling at high stakes".

U.K. Based b3 etc not the same though as there's different percentages and different winplans etc per stake and all stakes capped at a 500 jp rather than a multiplier of the initial stake.

change stake and start are the only options.... sure i read somwhere on here some one reckoning they could tell when a feature was due on a game, didn't reply because I thought I must be going mad.

I watch some of the youtube vids, suppose with bandits vids you don't see the shit between the bonuses, just the balance  dropping.
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#66
(04-05-2017, 06:20 PM)JP 24/7 Wrote: There's defiantly games that have independent stakes online. Each stake is 98% but defiantly independent. Novamatics are for sure.

Really enjoy the videos JPM. Hours worth of once upon a jackpot please. They're by far your best reactions. Regardless of wether Peter Kay makes an appearance or not.

independent stakes? explain that one please.




if its the case that games are stake dependent, min stakes should be played at all time?
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#67
And if the min stake is behind...
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#68
(04-06-2017, 09:30 AM)JP 24/7 Wrote: And if the min stake is behind...

ah I see, target%?

take it your in the "its rigged" half of players.
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#69
Maybe I worded that wrong, but not every spin of an online slot is at the % stated. Far from it, but there's more than the balls in a bag bollocks that most people sprout.
The future is much like the present, only longer.
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#70
I'd imagine on most of them it is, any programmers on here clear this one up?
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#71
Balls in a bag. Pick one. Put it back. Repeat.

Literally the easiest way to make it work and mathematically it will hit %.

I'm not saying they all work like that but they could and should be.
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#72
Yeah I always thought that but I suppose different manufacturers could do it different ways
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#73
to much risk of getting a whistle blower making mainstream rigged games, market destroyed and competition takes it place?
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#74
The Bandits' latest video he was shouting at a red tiger game, about how when it was released it was lively as fuck(not just in wins but with features going on) and now it's literally like someone's turned it down. The one that sticks out in my mind is warlords, when it came out it was feature after feature and now it's tricky to just get a tease on it.

I've thought this plenty of times, but then realised that I probably just sound like one of those coffin dodgers in the arcade who think that their magic 10 being moved closer to the coffee machine has stopped it from paying out.
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#75
They all do it. Pick and Mix in the bookies was too generous on certain features when released. These things soon get put right.
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#76
the only explanation for the above is...

players play new games, some get a result so play it again, then again and again.

each time a few players eventually have a shit run of luck and stop playing it,

those that play it the first time and get no luck, more likely to then stick to games that have been better for them in the past.

will always end up looking like the game started off more generous.
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#77
I dunno, it's a bit wierd how regularly they update a game like fruit warp especially since it's been given loads of attention from YouTube and the like. Congrats Bandit on that hit this evening, one of the rarest live hits well see!
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#78
(04-08-2017, 09:24 PM)russthebus Wrote: the only explanation for the above is...

players play new games, some get a result so play it again, then again and again.

each time a few players eventually have a shit run of luck and stop playing it,

those that play it the first time and get no luck, more likely to then stick to games that have been better for them in the past.

will always end up looking like the game started off more generous.

Very true! I should imagine games are tested through like millions of pounds of play through to make sure they are hitting RTP long run.

The only drawback to this is the initial high RTP games might hit for example when they reset reel king potty to 500/500/500 and it got pulled quick enough.
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#79
The cops and robbers 500/500/500 reset lasted an age comparitvely seen as though pots were so rare it didn't make it over 100% RTP short run whilst the pots were 500.

Bookies are often shortsighted with games and either take them off or change the profile based on very short term results on them, although tbf I can see why they just get scared quickly, it's easier just to take it off than risk a bigger exposure
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#80
Most games have a version number on them don't they? From £500s to online so maybe keep an eye on that to check to see if the game has been updated
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